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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.27 12:08:00 -
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if you do not like to deal with annoying obstacles, you are playing the wrong game. that said, you can always get your faction standing above 5.0 and decline missions as much as you want.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |

Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.27 14:28:00 -
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Roime wrote:It's all about ISK/hr, no fun should be be introduced into your EVE :(
a man once told me that some people think it's fun to optimize isk/hour. then he touched my weewee.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |

Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.27 16:44:00 -
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Roime wrote:@ Daniel,
yeah, but why do hisec missions then?
because losing ships hurts your isk/hour.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |

Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.27 18:06:00 -
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Roime wrote:But not as much as running missions does. not everybody has access to better isk/hr than missioning. unless you mean station trading in which case i modify my statement to 'not everyone is resistant to brain-eating activities.'
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |

Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.04 19:44:00 -
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Roime wrote:Daniel Plain wrote:Roime wrote:But not as much as running missions does. not everybody has access to better isk/hr than missioning. unless you mean station trading in which case i modify my statement to 'not everyone is resistant to brain-eating activities.' Yes, everybody has same access to all areas of EVE, you are only limited by the choices you make. And the limitations are hardly ever permanent, so you can choose again. I personally found trading infinitely more interesting and engaging than grinding the same missions over and over again. And I also like the fact that I haven't had to grind PVE for ISK since last December.
just because you can go anywhere does not mean you can do anything. it also does not mean that you are coming back rich or at all. if you find crunching numbers and fighting .01ISK wars more interesting than actually blowing things up, be my guest. but please don't assume that everyone does and don't make arrogant remarks about other people's playstyle.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |

Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.06 16:07:00 -
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Roime wrote:If you can solo level 4s proficiently, you have character skills to do pretty much anything. And as soon as you realize that this is actually an MMO, where teamwork really pays off, you can do literally anything. If you are referring to some special limits, could you please specify?
just because eve is an mmo does not mean that you have to play WITH other players. folks like me are quite content to play AGAINST people or just playing alone together. other people might be restricted in other ways (like play time). in fact, i would argue that for the vast majority of the eve population, lvl4s in hisec are the overall beast means of income (assuming they have the SP and ship to fly them).
Quote: Oh I do love blowing things up more than anything, but only things that are piloted by real humans who also want to blow me up. Killing NPCs does not compare with this at all, it's a monotonous, bot-like chore. I want to avoid monotonous, boring bot-like chores on my free time. Exposure to PVP makes repetitive PVE endurable, and especially doing it together with your space buddies.
whether or not you enjoy blowing up other players is your business. just be aware that some people don't and therefore, lowsec, 0.0 and wspace are not appealing to them. if a player does not wish to wander out to 0.0, any ISK making opportunities there are not an option. i could probably make more RL money by becoming a male prostitute but i still prefer not to. am i hurting my $ per hour?
Quote: Trading is interesting because of the marketing aspect. Anticipating demand, preparing for patch time changes, controlling markets etc. Fun is in planning and setting up your trade system, fun is in successful deals and making piles of ISK while at work and sleeping. I don't think anybody loves .01-ISKing or trades because that part is fun, but I can understand the spreadsheet side is rewarding to people who like numbers.
again, be my guest but don't assume that other people are willing or able to endure what you think is fun.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
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